In this conversation, Gita Wirjawan interviews Professor James Robinson, a professor at the Harris School of Public Policy at the University of Chicago. They discuss various topics, including Robinson's background and journey to academia, the role of geography and institutions in economic development, the success of Robinson's book "Why Nations Fail," the relationship between culture and development, the challenges of democracy and social media, the future of Africa, and the impact of artificial intelligence on social science. Robinson emphasizes the importance of inclusive institutions, the potential of Africa's social mobility and cultural diversity, and the need for a deeper understanding of human society and democracy.